Henry Seiter's children - Henry Seiter

Henry Seiter was the third child of Henry Seiter and Catherine Marr.

He was born in 1904 and died in 1979. He married Elizabeth "Bessie" Miller [1905 - 1991] on September 12, 1926 (click on image to enlarge). They had a son and a daughter. Henry and Elizabeth can be found living in Queens, NY in the 1930 census with their daughter [born around 1928], where Henry is noted to be a chauffer.

Elizabeth Miller was the sister of my grandmother, Sarah Miller. For more information on the Miller family, go to http://millerfamilytree.blogspot.com/

Henry and Elizabeth are buried in Flushing Cemetery, in Queens, NY [plot k5- Division C - Section 11] (see earlier post).

Henry Seiter's Children - John Seiter

John Seiter was one of Henry Seiter and Catherine Marr Seiter's oldest children.

He and his twin sister, Anna, were born on January 1, 1903 in New York City.

John C. Seiter married Edna A. Bischoff in Queens, NY on December 20, 1936.

John can be found in the 1910 and 1920 censuses [posted previously] living with his father, Henry. I could not find him on the 1930 census.

John Seiter died December 8, 1993 in Pennsylvania.

I will post pictures and additional information if anyone can provide them.

Henry Seiter's children - Anna Seiter

Anna Seiter was one of Henry Seiter and Catherine Marr Seiter's oldest children.

She and her twin brother, John, were born on January 1, 1903 in New York City.

Anna married Arthur F. Johnson in Queens, NY on June 23, 1920. Arthur was born about 1899.

Anna can be found in the 1910 census living with her father, Henry [posted previously]. In 1920 she was living with her Aunt Elizabeth Beresheim - see above census - click on image to enlarge. I cannot find Anna and Arthur in the 1930 census.

I will post pictures and additional information if anyone can provide them.

John Marr Jr. and Katherine Seiter - 1920 census

Click on the image to enlarge. This image is explained in the post below "More on the Marrs"

John Marr 1880 census

Click on the image to enlarge. This census is explained in the post below "More on the Marrs"

John Marr 1870 census

Click on the image to enlarge. This is explained in the post below - "more on the Marrs"

More on the Marr's

The previous post refers to the Marr branch of the Seiter family tree, but I have discovered new information, I think – this part is a lot of guess work – you should probably read the older posts before the newer posts to understand it better. If you don't care HOW I figured this stuff out, feel free to skip to the last three paragraphs of this post that say WHAT I figured out.


Catherine Marr married Henry Seiter around 1903 – based on information from the 1910 census. Catherine Marr’s death certificate lists her date of birth as June 1883, and her parents are noted to be John Marr [born in Germany] and Catherine Rheinhard [born in NY]. According to Lucille Mull [daughter of Henry Seiter and my grandfather’s (James) half sister], Catherine was known to have a sister named Elizabeth who married Adam Beresheim – census records for Elizabeth and Adam show that Elizabeth was born around 1865. Lucille never mentioned any other siblings for Catherine Marr Seiter.

The above 1900 census shows a Catherine Marr, born June 1882, with a father named John and a sister named Annie. Catherine’s birth date was off a year, and who was Annie? Click on the image to enlarge.

I then went back to 1870 and found a John Marr and SUSAN Marr, who had a five year old named Elizabeth [which fits], but also children named Ferdinand and John – so now, I had a mother with a different name and siblings who didn’t match. Go to the above post entitled "John Marr 1870 census" (I don't know how to include more than one image in a post)

When I went to 1880 I found again, John and Susan Marr with children Elizabeth, Ferdinand, John and now Annie - this could be the same Annie from 1900, as the age matches. The information on John Sr. matched from census to census, so I think this is the same John, (I guess Lucille just didn't know about or remember the other siblings). Go to the above post entitled "John Marr 1880 census".

I think that Elizabeth, Ferdinand, John and Annie’s mother was named Susan, and sometime between 1880 and 1882 or 1883, Susan died and John Marr married Catherine Rheinhard and had a daughter, Catherine [Henry Seiter’s wife]. I will check this eventually by going into New York City and trying to find the marriage certificates for Elizabeth Marr Beresheim, John Marr Jr. and Catherine Marr Seiter.


I still was only guessing until I thought that maybe I could look at Catherine Marr’s other siblings [?] in the census. I couldn’t find anything more on Ferdinand or Annie, but I DID find John Marr Jr. in 1900, 1910 and 1920 [see separate post above entitled "John Marr Jr" for information on John Marr Jr's family].


I still couldn’t prove that this John Marr Jr. was a brother to Catherine Marr Seiter [which would mean that the census information back to 1880 for John Marr Sr. was really for MY Catherine Marr’s father], until I took another look at John Marr Jr. in the 1920 census. In 1920 [Catherine Marr Seiter died in 1914], John Marr was renting a room to Katharine Seiter – which would have been his deceased sister’s mother in law! Eureka! I had seen this census sheet before when looking up Katharine, but never noticed the Marrs. [See the above post entitled "John Marr Jr. and Katharine Seiter - 1920 census"]

So I think that Catherine Marr had half siblings Elizabeth, Ferdinand, John, and Annie whose mother’s name was Susan.

You can tell from the census that Catherine’s father John Marr was born in 1839 in Bavaria, Germany. He came to the USA in 1843 and was a tinsmith.

There are some minor inconsistencies [Catherine’s birth date on 1900 census; Susan Marr is listed as being born in Germany in the 1880 census, but in NY in 1870 and on John Marr Jr’s and Elizabeth Beresheim’s censuses], but I think that the fact that John Marr Jr. lived with Katharine Seiter makes this a pretty solid guess.

Catherine Marr Death Certificate

Catherine Marr Death Certificate,
originally uploaded by rpaccptjd.

This is the death certificate for my great grandmother, Catherine [Marr] Seiter. I don't have much information on her. Click on the picture to enlarge, then click on "all sizes" directly over the picture to enlarge further.

She was born 6/18/1883 in NY to John Marr [born in Germany] and Catherine Rheinhard [born in NY].

She died 2/1/1914 while pregnant with her 7th child, while living in Corona, NY with her husband, Henry Seiter.

She was the mother of John, Anna, Henry, James, Dorothy and Edward Seiter.

She had a sister, Elizabeth Marr [Beresheim].

She is buried at St. Michael's Cemetery in East Elmhurst, NY. Her grave is located at : No. 51, Range 72, Plot 6 and does not have a gravestone.

The earlier post "Henry Seiter and Catherine Seiter - 1910 census" has more information on Catherine [Marr] Seiter.

I was unable to find anything else out on John Marr or Catherine Rheinhard, but I plan to go into the New York Hall of Records to try and find a marriage certificate for Catherine Marr and Henry Seiter who were married ~ 1903 - that may have more information on Catherine's parents.

Henry Seiter grave - 1979

This is the gravestone for Henry Seiter [my grandfather's brother] and Elizabeth Miller Seiter [my grandmother's sister]. It is located at Flushing Cemetery, Queens, NY [plot k5- Division C - Section 11]

Henry was the son of Henry Seiter [d. 1959] and Catherine Marr Seiter [d. 1914]. He was the brother of John, Anna, Dorothy, Edward and James. He was the half brother of Elizabeth and Lucille Seiter [whose parents were Henry Seiter and his second wife, Elizabeth] and the step brother of Elsa, Eva and Emile Myers.

Click on the picture to enlarge.

For more information on the Miller family, go to http://millerfamilytree.blogspot.com/

1930 census - Henry Seiter

This is the 1930's census for Henry Seiter and his family. Click on picture to enlarge.

Henry was living with his second wife, Elizabeth and their 2 daughters, Elizabeth and Lucille in a house he owned in Bellerose ,Queens on 41st avenue. The value of the house was $6000.

Notably, in column 9, they are listed as owning a Radio Set!

Also listed is a son of Henry, named Peter E Seiter. I have never heard of a reference to a Peter Seiter before and can find no other information on him. He is listed as a clerk at a newspaper.

I knew Lucille and she told me that Henry and Elizabeth only had 2 children [Elizabeth & Lucille], so Peter is not actually Henry's son. Elizabeth's three children from a previous marriage included one son named Emile Myers [who is listed as Henry's son in the 1920 census], therefore it is unclear who Peter Seiter actually is.

Lucille and Elizabeth Seiter were the half siblings of my grandfther, James Seiter and his siblings, Anna, John, Henry [#2], Dorothy and Edward [whose mother, Catherine (Marr) Seiter died in 1914]

The ages are listed as:
Henry 48
Elizabeth 49
Peter 20
Lucille 12
Elizabeth 6

Henry Seiter and Catherine Seiter 1910 census

This is the 1910 census from Henry Seiter and Catherine (Marr) Seiter and their kids. Click on picture to enlarge.

The Seiter's are on lines 24 - 30

Catherine died in 1914. Henry & Catherine's youngest son, Edward, has not been born yet.

It says they lived in Queens although I cannot make out the street name, which is all the way to the left and written sideways.

Henry's father is now correctly mentioned as being born in Germany.

Henry and Catherine had been married 7 years, so they got married in 1902 or 1903 - I cannot find a marriage record, though. Apparently, a lot of Catholic churches didn't report weddings to NY City back then.

Catherine's father is listed as born in Germany and her mother as born in NY.

Henry was out of work the date of the census.

The ages are as follows:

Henry 27
Catherine 26

Anna 7

John 7

Henry 5

James 2

Dorothy 5 months